User talk:Isenhand

Hi Isenhand -- we are excited to have Technocracy Wiki as part of the Wikia community!

Starting a new wiki can be a big job, but don't worry, the Wikia Community Team is here to help! We have put together a few guides to getting started. They say imitation is the best form of flattery so absolutely check out other wikis on Wikia for ideas on layout, ways to organize your content, etc. We are all one big family at Wikia and the most important thing is to have fun!


 * Our guide to Getting Started gives you 5 things you can do right now to set your wiki up for success
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Now, go edit! We look forward to seeing this project thrive!

Best wishes, Catherine Munro

Conflict Resolution
Sorry to bother you, Tbonepickensetc has complained about your activities here on Central Wikia. I suggest unblocking him, so that we can talk this over and revolve this conflict without blocking users with good intentions. If there's a problem, or if I misunderstood the conflict, please tell me on my talk page. Thanks. --Michaeldsuarez
 * Are the comments on Special:ProblemReports/13667 and Talk:NET true? Even if they're not, you've failed to respond to both of them. Also, you have banned Tbonepickensetc without issuing any warning, and you never explaining to him why he was banned. Theblock logs says troll, but that is too vague. You should unblock Tbonepickensetc, so that we may discuss this issue properly. --Michaeldsuarez 17:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Isenhand. I am Catherine from the Community Team. I believe Tbone has overreacted somewhat and misunderstood how different Wikia polices can be from Wikipedia policies. I have exchanged emails with him and explained that there are no notability criteria at Wikia, and that your article about NET seems reasonably objective to me. A technocracy wiki should document all organizations in the movement, and any relevant books and articles about it, and there is no prohibition about promoting your own work as long as you are not acting like a spammer -- promoting your work in a way that is disruptive or irrelevant to the context.

While I understand your frustration with his complaints, especially if you have clashed in the past on Wikipedia, I think your block was hasty and should have been preceded by some attempts at discussion.

Tbone has promised me that if unblocked he will not try to edit the NET article, and that he will edit neutrally and without antagonizing you or other users. I would like you to unblock him and give him a chance to start afresh. I would like to see you two try to work productively on this wiki, and communicate about any differences -- any future administrative actions (from you or from Wikia staff) should be judged on user actions on the Technocracy from this point forward, and not reflect feuds carried over from Wikipedia. If you choose not to unblock him without providing a reasonable explanation why, I will unblock him myself and watch both your actions closely to see if further action is required.

The Technocracy wiki is so small right now that all of the focus should be concentrated on creating new articles -- this is the only way to attract more editors who can help to balance any perceived bias from either side. There are many red links listed on Special:WantedPages that need to be created, and there are undoubtedly many other missing pages. I believe that you could both work productively if you are concentrating on building the wiki to 100 pages, so that you qualify for a spotlight which can be displayed on other wikis. You may also find useful advice on Advice:Raising your wiki's Google ranking.

Finally, it appears that some contributions on the wiki (both yours and his) may be copied from Wikipedia. This is perfectly fine as Wikia and Wikipedia both use the GNU Free Documentation License, but unless the pages copied are 100% your own writing, they must attribute Wikipedia editors as the source. The easiest way to do this is to add the template to the bottom of the page on this wiki.

Thank you very much for your patience and cooperation, I would very much like to see this wiki become the first and best resource on the web for everyone interested in Technocracy! — Catherine (talk) 18:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for unblocking Tbone. I am continuing to keep an eye on edits from both of you.  I understand that you have many differences, but please continue to work constructively as much as possible.  Please do not revert his edits wholesale, and without comment, as it does not contribute to a constructive atmosphere.  I would prefer to see some efforts to discuss how to incorporate different points of view.  While Wikia does not require rigid adherence to the Neutral point of view as Wikipedia does, it is a useful tool for cooperating with those of different beliefs.


 * Please remain polite and constructive in your edits and I hope that we can resolve this issue soon. — Catherine (talk) 17:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Catherine,


 * Thanks. The main disagreement really centres around sources. All the information I put in on the technocracy inc or Hubbert or Scott for example all come from secondary sources which I have listed in the articles. However, skip appears to disregard theses sources and appears to puts his own opinions in. I revert his edits when the do not agre with the sources, which is most of the time. isenhand


 * I have attempted to give you time to resolve your conflicts, and seen only the escalation of hostility.  Your use of reversion and protection, rather than discussion, is not appropriate use of admin tools and I warn you not to continue this activity.  Please unprotect the pages you have protected.


 * Because I don't think Wikia behavioral policy is going to resolve this obviously long-running argument, I have asked Tbone to stop editing here (or risk being blocked). It isn't because I feel that one side is particularly in the right, it's because you are no longer editing Wikipedia and I feel you should work in separate arenas.


 * While I understand how Tbone's relentless accusations of self-promotion may put you on the defensive, please do take a thoughtful look at some of the suggestions he has made and consider how to incorporate more information from both sides of the divide into your project. The wiki is still very small and covering all aspects of Technocracy's history can only help you to build a better project.  — Catherine (talk) 18:27, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I did tell you. If I see anything of use in between the Ad Hominems then we can use it. If you can keep skip away from editing anything on the technocracy pages that would be good also. There used to be a small group of us at wikipedia, from NET, Technocracy Inc and some independents, editing the pages there. We all left one after the other as they got sick and tiered of skip. If I can show other people that skip is no longer a problem here I hope that a number of other technocrats will come along and help out. It would be good if we can get a team together from again.

Protection
You know wikis are supposed to be edited by everyone. Why are you protecting so many articles? Protection is supposed to be used to fight vandalism, and there aren't any vandals here. Protection isn't supposed to be pre-emptive. If you continue to do this, you may scare away all the non-administrative editors. Please lower the protection to registered users or autocomfirmed users. Thanks. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 18:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)